Yes. Thank you, Chair.
I have one question, and it's for Mr. Allen.
I do agree with you on the fisheries stock assessment, but how do you protect from the fact that fishers will always say there's more fish there than is maybe the reality until it's all gone, and then it's the department's fault that they didn't manage it well? I agree that fishers should have input. Just quickly, what would you recommend that to be, so that it protects but also gives fishers the input they should have?