As Karen has also alluded to, the policy gaps in responding to marine debris are as evident as they were after Hanjin, unfortunately. The debris has spread. We know that it's affecting a huge stretch of the B.C. coastline. I'm alarmed to hear that we are in the after phase, because this is clearly an ongoing issue. It's clear to anyone who lives on the coast that it's an ongoing issue. The debris is very much still out there and we're going to continue to encounter that debris, especially since there are 102 containers that are still unaccounted for.
I'd say the lessons learned are that we need a robust plan for marine debris management generally. It's impossible at this point to do a container spill cleanup, if you like. The stuff is so dispersed along the coast that it would be impossible for us to go out and recover every single item from the Zim Kingston. What we need is a strategic plan for how we can continue to monitor our coastlines and continue to manage the marine debris issue that we are dealing with as coastal communities in B.C.