We have seen different examples of where bodies outside of a given government department or branch can do that work. I mentioned COSEWIC. I'll raise it again. COSEWIC does effectively the same thing in terms of stock assessment. COSEWIC assesses the status of species at risk of concern. It does a very similar job. It would be possible. Whether it is required is something for discussion.
There are instances where DFO's model works well. Not in every case are the issues contentious or fractured, so it's really in those instances that Dr. Riddell and I would advocate that you really need independent advice and independent collation of evidence, but, if that model were developed, it wouldn't necessarily need to be DFO-driven. It can be driven by parliamentarians, and that's really what I see is required. I don't think DFO management, from its seemingly comfortable current position, is going to autonomously opt for this model.