That's interesting.
My next question, Mr. Chair, is for Mr. Reynolds. He spoke a lot about sea lice. If I were a salmon, I'd be much more afraid of a pinniped chasing me than a sea lice. You also talked about trade-offs in some of these management decisions. Could you give us an example of a trade-off that might be made in terms of addressing the risk of pinnipeds on salmonid populations?