My suggestion to the committee, in the limited time that's left, is that there has to be more communication with the fish harvesters and there has to be more pragmatic advice. When there's greater uncertainty, there has to be a redoubling of efforts to find out the real truth and be more certain about what the real situation is.
I know that's occurred to some extent in mackerel. That needs to be the way forward. There needs to be a bringing together and a ground truthing. If the views of the fishermen and the scientists are aligned, that's great. We can be pretty sure. If there's a wide disparity and we're not sure, then there should be a lot more work put in to bring together those views.