I have to interrupt you, Mr. Perkins. I know you're not here in the room, but the lights are flashing and a vote has been called.
I would ask the committee if we have permission to continue. When there's between five and 10 minutes left, if we're all in agreement, we'll use our devices to vote instead of leaving the room.
We'll continue on for another 15 or so minutes with the testimony. I'll stop it when I think we need that much time to sign in and get our faces identified on our cameras.
Continue, Mr. Perkins, please.