Well, I'm not necessarily familiar with all of the criteria they use to do this, but I think they made a huge mistake in lumping U.S. and Canadian fisheries all into one red-listing measure. These are very different fisheries, pursued at very different times of the year, with very different protection measures for right whales.
I will add, again, that I think our Canadian measures exceed those of the U.S. They may not yet be enough, but I'm of the opinion—and I don't think many would disagree—that our measures provide more protection for right whales in our waters than our neighbours' measures do to the south.
It certainly drew a line in the sand, and it caused a lot of angst. It has not improved the situation for our working relationship with the fishermen, and that saddens me. I think that's almost the tragedy of it.