Right.
I don't know whether the other witnesses, Mr. Fleck, Mr. Muise and Ms. Mulock, talked about weak-link ropes or ropeless gear.
In our region, Mr. Haché, ropeless gear has actually been working relatively well so far, if I am not mistaken, according to the tests that have been done. I am talking about ropeless traps with an electronic system. Do they work relatively well?