I'm just going to go back to a previous witness, Ms. Giffin, who admitted that her claims on year-classes aren't based on any science, because there haven't been any mackerel taken and you just haven't sampled them physically to know what the year-classes are. How can you have science making claims, talking about year-classes and biomasses, when there's absolutely no science to back it up? The science is absolutely so weak.
On November 15th, 2022. See this statement in context.