I would just add that without any fishing activity on the water, we've lost a significant amount of science capability just this year. What we're seeing are observations, but at the end of the day, that's not a science protocol. We would need to have people on the water full time to do an actual study of what we're seeing and what changes are going on in the ecosystem around climate change.
On November 15th, 2022. See this statement in context.