The main thing I would like to state here is that at the AMAC meetings there's a large representation of the seiner fleet. At the AMAC meetings, many of the people representing the seiner fleet are also wearing the hat of an international company that can import the bait or the fish from other places, such as Europe, that are having stellar years in their fishery. They actually quite possibly could have gained from this closure. These groups are the only groups that supported a closure unless they could have an extremely large fishery in Newfoundland with double the tonnage for themselves over what we had.
I have a feeling that there was consultation done. It just wasn't done in the right places. The inshore fishery has not been protected.
In the hook-and-line fishery, it is impossible to clean out a species. With a gillnet fishery, it is impossible to clean out a species. For the hook-and-line fishery, the fish has to bite the hook. With a gillnet, you'll only catch a certain size of fish. When you take a seine and you go around the school of fish, that school is gone: There are no fish from that school left to replace themselves. That is what we're up against. Also, they use methods like mid-water trawling in the wintertime off the U.S., and that basically has the same level of destruction towards a species.
There's no respect for the species in these higher levels of catch rates.