Thanks to everyone. This has been a really interesting discussion, in view of the short time.
I don't have any predetermined position on this. I really want to know what the best evidence is and how we resolve some conflicting evidence.
My riding is the Yukon territory. We know that salmon have essentially collapsed—chinook in particular have collapsed—so I am very worried about the critical state of our salmon.
There, I think, there's no argument.
We know also that there's potential for growth in the seal market, as was eloquently described by Madame Gauthier, and that with education that can increase.
I guess I have a few questions. First, I'll go quickly to Dr. Trites.
Mr. Stabler's referred now twice to peer-reviewed studies about salmon consumption by predators.
Can you comment on your own view of the magnitude of this issue and why there's some disagreement, perhaps, between your assessment and Mr. Stabler's assessment?