I think, honestly, the biggest benchmark for success would be that it shows that the government is making a concerted and comprehensive attempt to help the seal industry and to help the marine management of the northwest Atlantic. You've heard from other witnesses about how there was a forum in 2002 and another forum in 2005, and there was talk of one in 2013 that never happened. We can't let these be one-off conversations. We can't bring everyone together and say, “All right, we solved it; we're all good.”
We know there are deeper issues. We know there are more people who could have and should have been in that room. In particular, I will say the fact that the summit did not allow for the participation of a significant number northern participants that were interested in participating, including the Government of the Northwest Territories and the Government of Nunavut as the two recognized bodies for the certification of Canadian seal products in the European Union. They were unable to attend, so there certainly is room to improve.
This is not to say that the first summit wasn't useful. The first summit was incredibly important, but the second one will be more important. The third one will be even more important. I look forward to a day when we don't have to have a seal summit anymore.