I would agree with you. I think the most effective policies and decisions are sometimes made by those sitting here as government representatives, but are usually made by private sector and industries.
You still have to overcome the nuance of animal rights and the activists we've talked about. It's imperative. We can talk about food security and indigenous rights and reconciliation, but they don't care. We need to find a way to better explain the processes. I'm not sure if government-to-government is part of that process or if it comes back to the industry again.
What would you suggest that we as policy-makers sitting around this table try to articulate to DFO or to the bureaucrats at hand who are responsible for some of these decisions?