In this job I'm progressively getting older.
To both of you, in terms of the impacts it has, the benefits, we need to reframe this. We need to reframe it nationally, by the way, and I would even say regionally, nationally and internationally.
I'm looking to you to give us some ideas of what you're doing, but also how we can work together on reframing that from a national and international perspective, in particular with the Americans. If we do go offside in one form or another...and I don't think anybody here is saying we need a cull. I don't think anybody's saying that. I wouldn't want to put words in anyone's mouth here. We need to be careful. We need to be tactical and we need to be strategic. One false move could impact an entire fishery, or two, or three, or all of them. How can we work together on the education piece?