I'm now outside of government, but to answer that, I would say that lack of consultation with the fishing industry before the introduction of those policies suggests that the department is being cautious. As to why, I'm not sure I can allude to or give you any kind of direct response. I expect that overall it's the combination of ENGOs and also their reticence to want to enact any response from the U.S.
As to what we're seeing, we haven't seen consultations with the industry on the nuisance seal policy in particular. We haven't seen any tangible evidence from discussions or dialogue or communications with the U.S.