The quota hasn't changed in many years, and DFO has been perfectly open that they'll move the quota. If we hit 4,000, they'll move it to 5,000 or to 6,000.
There's no point in moving it if we take out just 25,000 or 30,000 seals a year. DFO says that just to maintain the population now, it's 425,000 to 450,000, and to start bringing it down, the number is about 600,000. There's no point in moving the quota if we don't take them out.
That's the processors. We have to take it out, and there's no question on that, but to get that out of the water, we have to focus on quality, so we need secondary processing.
Yes, there are market issues, but there is a huge demand in these countries. Sometimes there's the typical red tape. Sometimes it's a lot harder. Are there places where government can help on red tape? Absolutely, without question, and not just in the U.S.—everywhere.
You guys missed a huge opportunity on Monday when Romy was here. Romy herself didn't get asked any questions. She's been working for literally years on doing the paperwork and the red tape and stuff that she's been hit with on getting seal products into China through the Seals and Sealing Network. We're all working in that group, all the processors in Newfoundland and Total Océan, and trying to get things....
Romy is probably the biggest expert on that, so I highly recommend that you bring her back or at least reach out for information. She has been in this industry for years and she knows far more about that than I can speak on.