This is a good question. One of the damages from all the anti-sealing campaigns is that it's actually very hard for sealers to get insurance. The rate of insurance went really high. I know that in Newfoundland they mostly would hunt harp seals on the ice. That's tougher. It's a tougher hunt for those people. It's tough on all the material as well.
Here, with climate change and all, we barely have ice anymore in the Gulf of St. Lawrence. Most of the time, the guys are going on the open sea. We have fewer problems, but the problem we have is finding companies who want to insure sealing activities. As we know, the big insurance companies are from either the States or the United Kingdom. It's getting to be really a big problem.