Mr. Martin Paish at the Fisheries and Oceans Committee

There are several ways we can look at it.

First off, the complete closure of the hunting of seals in the 1970s is what initially created the problem, but we also have other activities taking place.

I think, perhaps, one of the most significant ones that we notice would be the use of log booms. Log booms in the estuaries and bays around systems that produce salmon have created safe haulouts for seals and sea lions that haven't existed in the past and have enabled them to successfully avoid predators of their own, such as transient killer whales and things like that.

One only needs to travel down, for example, the mouth of the Fraser River to see the abundance of log booms and the abundance of seals and sea lions on them that can do this. Those are the two examples that I would provide in a short answer.