I understand that, in the north, there probably hasn't been a lot of science, but on the east coast, there's been a lot of science. There was a royal commission on seals in 1986. There was the fisheries resource conservation council established in 1993 that did extensive studies on seals and called, in 1999, for the seal population to be half of what it was then. Of course, it's almost doubled in size since then.
There have been, as you say, numerous committee reports here that have studied it—four or five, at least. There is science that came out on grey seals last year from DFO scientists saying exactly what you said, that we're going to see the loss of species in the gulf. I have 122 pages of the DFO seal stomach samples that I got through an access to information request or an Order Paper request.
DFO, at the Atlantic mackerel advisory committee, put out a slide that showed that 50% of what grey seals eat in the winter is mackerel, of all things, which weren't supposed to be here in the winter, and 80% is cod and herring in the summer.
Isn't there enough science to determine that we need fewer seals?