That's a big question, and it's not just to do with seals and sea lions. There are many different observations happening on the water that are not reflected in policy and management.
There needs to be a better way to work with the department and harvesters. What we're facing on the water right now is rapid change in our ecosystems. We're facing rapid change in our social systems on land and interactions with other nations. We need a management system that is able to be more nimble as our ecosystem changes to be able, when a harvest is possible, to allow that and to curtail that when something goes down the other way.
We're not there. There's the example of bocaccio on our coast. We've known for six years that the population was going right through the roof. It took management five years of harvesters yelling and saying, “We need to deal with this,” to actually look at the stock assessment and then change it. We need a way to manage in the face of rapid change.