It is critical that they both be in the same room, because right now it flows from the Treasury Board through DFO to the commission and back to DFO. If that relationship is evidenced in front of us as not working.... If it works, that is a big step. If it is not working, isn't that what we need to know as well? There are legal opinions that point out the structural conflict of interest DFO commissioners are in when they serve on the commission, so there is all of that.
If that relationship is evident to our eyes—that they can't work in front of a parliamentary committee—how are they supposed to work well in the backrooms?