I have no doubt that there are bigger questions with respect to the impacts of seals on the ecosystem as a whole. Quite frankly, sir, we will never get to know that. The idea that we should spend our efforts trying to understand what those impacts are....
I'm not sure what kind of answer we're looking for—you as a committee or committees over the last 40 years. What do you need to know that will tell you and tell your clients—and I'm thinking about the cabinet table, I guess—enough to say we should move and do something? There's no doubt that those impacts are there. It's pretty clear, even from the aggregate level and the individual level. It's all there. We need to proceed, as Dr. Walters would say.