That's a hard one to respond to, Mr. Hardie.
I grew up in the commercial fishery. To the chair's question about Paul Kariya, I'm proud, when I give public talks in other spheres, to say that there was a boy in the NHL whose grandfather came to Canada to fish.
I remember, from when I was a boy, when the first Davis Plan came in and my father, as a fisherman, was thinking through his options of a category A licence versus a category B licence, and then as herring and that went on.... Christina can recount some of this, too, from her time.
What to keep and what to throw away requires some thoughtful, complex thinking. I think first nations have suffered from being excluded from when the commercial licensing regime came in. That must be rectified. I think that's what the reconciliation agreement stands for. However, I think beyond that there's so much more. Again, this committee probably isn't the place to get into what's wrong with how resources have been managed in our province to the detriment of first nations, who I work for today. I don't want to give a glib answer and say, “Throw it all out,” or get into it without a further understanding of it, but there is a lot that needs to be changed, I suspect. We haven't gotten into the restoration of fish and fisheries. We haven't gotten into the overall management. Christina, in her opening comments, gave a comment about the northern bioregion marine protected areas network that we're working on.
I want to say that it's not just accessing fish to sell to make money that our nations are concerned about. They're thinking about all of our long-term futures in terms of how the resource—and it's not just the resource but the habitat—is managed. That's what the MPA network is about, and that's what Canada is proud about in terms of the world stage.
Is there a way to do this with fishermen, all fishermen? Yes, of course, so I just want to make the statement—