Yes, and thank you for that question.
I have to say that there are very few things that frustrate me more than that line we keep hearing, with the exception maybe being the line of the scrambled omelette.
I think we have to remember that the issue we are having around the control of access to our fisheries does not negate our ability to meet our conservation objectives. We're not even talking about the flexibility that may be needed in some fisheries for fishermen to trade amongst each other for things like bycatch needs. We're talking about who is owning and controlling the licences and quota. You can still put limits and controls around who gets to be eligible to own licences and quota, still meet all of those conservation objectives and still meet all of that flexibility around trading for bycatch and all of the other aspects that people talk about, such as very good monitoring systems.
None of those things has to be affected by saying that we don't want corporate concentration of our licences and quota. It's a false dichotomy, and I really wish that we'd stop hearing that language from the department.