I don't have quantifiable numbers. I wish I did. I wish I could have it on a chart that I could easily show. I can say that for the fishing families I know who persist in the fishery through multiple generations and who are able to make a living from fishing and to do well and put their kids through university and things like that, they own their quota.
When we look at the example of 75% or more of the landed value going to the quota owner, 25% is coming back to the harvesting family. Out of that, they have to pay for the boat and the licence, the fuel, their operations and their crew. We're hearing from harvesters who simply don't fish. Maybe they have a quota in their family and they just don't fish it because it would be money-losing, as Villy just explained.
The difference is stark between families that own quota and those that don't. This is the kind of study that I'm disappointed to find DFO not putting efforts into understanding. Again, this is why I say that the beneficial ownership survey is barking up the wrong tree. We're not getting to the core of the question, because we're not asking the right question.