What the European Union does is ask other states that they are importing from to provide proof that their fisheries are properly managed and that they're keeping illegal products out of their supply chains. They conduct audits on those certifications as well. As I mentioned earlier, if countries are not conforming with their products, they do not allow them to sell to the European Union.
They also engage with them, however. The EU has worked with 60 countries since this program came into place to help them get in line, improve their fisheries management and get back up to scratch so that they can export their products to the European Union. It doesn't help anybody if we're just stifling trade. I think, again, that we benefit from that.
The European Union has been saying for several years, actually, that they don't want to be doing this alone. They don't want to have to carry this by themselves. The more countries that implement the same requirements, the stronger they will be.
With illegal fishing, what we don't want to do is displace the problem. We want to solve the problem.