I think there are definitely some good systems out there, but they need updating, or they need to move into the digital age. For example, there are electronic logs for some of the reporting and tracking. As I mentioned, we have fisheries where dockside monitors are supposed to be at a much higher percentage. There just aren't the people there to do it. Maybe we need to look at, as I said, the qualifications.
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