I think sometimes it's a lack of it, Mr. Small, that leads us to have issues. Sometimes we're seeing that it's under-resourced, and there's the inability to get enough officers on the water to properly.... It's not just on the water—it's on the wharf as well—but certainly on the water is where you start.
That presence is a huge deterrent. Boarding a vessel and looking around is a huge deterrent, and we need more of it. Many of the organizations we represent at the federation ask continually for more of it.
I would say it would not necessarily be consistent, although we do know of examples. We heard Mr. Allen speak of it this afternoon, where sometimes there is a blind eye turned to certain things, or sometimes charges are.... I think the enforcement officers hope to lay charges, and then they are told not to, in terms of some of the indigenous fishing, and we've seen that in a variety of examples.
It has to be consistent for all parties, and we need enough deterrents to make people want to be in compliance.