If I could share a model that is in my mind from the lower Fraser first nations, it would be government-to-government-to-government relations, but with the provision that there's still opportunity for stakeholders to be at that table as advisers and have a technical table with western science and indigenous knowledge.
In my mind, and in our minds as nations, we have it ready to go. We just need UNDRIP and reconciliation as part of that implementation.
As I mentioned earlier, stakeholders and first nations are always going to be competing unless we can get into the same room. That's why there's the interest in the lower Fraser for having a centre for collaboration and co-operation that deals with all things lower Fraser first nations, with all the parties able to join in that venue to deal with the salmon crisis that we have.
I'm probably taking some of Greg's time, so I'll stop there.