Thank you, Mr. chair.
I have a difficult question, I think, for Mr. Williams.
In the course of our various studies, one of the things we've also discovered over and above what the commissioner's report says is that the DFO's effort in stock assessment is quite behind schedule in many cases, in many places and with many species. If on top of that we don't have good enough data on the catch, in lieu of stock assessments, one would assume that you go to the precautionary principle and you manage fishing effort, but managing fishing effort effectively means knowing what's being caught, and the commissioner's report suggests that we really don't have a good grasp of that.
Really, are we in any place to know exactly the state of our current industry or of our indigenous fishery, much less where we're going in the future? It seems that everything is in a black box right now. Can you comment on that?