Ms. Annette Gibbons at the Fisheries and Oceans Committee

I'll ask Adam about conversations. I know there were definitely conversations with the elver licence-holders on traceability systems, and we were working together on what we could do.

I think that, ultimately, because the department was working on the regulations, and the regulations and the traceability system are two sides of the same coin, to do traceability without the regulations is limited.