Evidence of meeting #12 for Subcommittee on Food Safety in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was food.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Albert Chambers  Executive Director, Canadian Supply Chain Food Safety Coalition
Brewster Kneen  Representative, Canadian Health Coalition
Bette Jean Crews  President, Ontario Federation of Agriculture, Canadian Federation of Agriculture
Ron Lennox  Vice-President, Trade and Security, Canadian Trucking Alliance
John Gyoroky  Corporate Dock Manager and HACCP Coordinator, Erb Transport, Canadian Trucking Alliance
Carole Swan  President, Canadian Food Inspection Agency
Brian Evans  Executive Vice-President, Canadian Food Inspection Agency
Cameron Prince  Vice-President, Operations, Canadian Food Inspection Agency
Paul Mayers  Associate Vice-President, Programs, Canadian Food Inspection Agency
Andrew Chaplin  Procedural Clerk, House of Commons

9:05 p.m.

Conservative

Bev Shipley Conservative Lambton—Kent—Middlesex, ON

Thank you, Mr. Prince.

I'll just pick up on that, because I think that's the critical part, quite honestly. It leads me to my comment. Maybe I'll have a question at the end of it.

We've listened to witnesses, and a little earlier we had comments come from the Beef Information Centre about the irradiation of meat. Then we had witnesses before us from Bioniche, who were here to promote their E. coli vaccine. As a company, they basically have come forward and asked the government to bankroll their test programs for the vaccine.

We're talking about irradiation of food and giving another vaccine to animals so that it will help in terms of food safety. I just wonder, when we actually just go back to having what we have produced in Canada, which is safe food, and just take that through the monitoring systems we've got, like HACCP and CVS, which is part of HACCP, I'm concerned, quite honestly, with the public perception of what might be happening when we start doing stuff to food that normally isn't done. It's all in the context of food safety. We're going to irradiate it now, or we're going to give vaccines to something else, so that we have less influence upon what we think is a natural product.

We had witnesses in here earlier tonight who were even concerned about some farm practices, even though we know farm practices have become better. Animals are better protected, better served now, have better diets now. Farmers are concerned more about the environment now than I think they ever have been, and contribute more to the environment than they ever have. Yet, if we continue to want to add stuff to our food system, I get concerned about the perception of what our consumers are going to think about our food.

Can you talk to me a little bit about what you think the effectiveness is of the conclusions of your test, and what the effectiveness of this vaccine would be on food safety?

9:05 p.m.

Associate Vice-President, Programs, Canadian Food Inspection Agency

Paul Mayers

Thank you for the question.

Mr. Chairman, the vaccine is subject to the regulatory oversight of the CFIA. Before the vaccine can be marketed, the CFIA assesses both its effectiveness as well as the safety of the vaccine for the target animals. In this case, the product was assessed, demonstrated to be effective in reducing the shedding of E. coli, and therefore was approved. It provides to the producer one more option in terms of effective stewardship.

You have heard Dr. Evans on a number of occasions speak to the importance of a whole-chain approach to food safety. Food safety starts right on the farm, in terms of the stewardship of the producer, in terms of their animals, and in the feeds the animals have access to. It's the on-farm food safety practices that reduce the potential for the animal to have chemical residues or to be shedding pathogens that might ultimately contaminate the meat. In the case of this particular vaccine, it provides one more opportunity for the producer to have an option in terms of that effective stewardship.

9:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Your time has expired, Mr. Shipley.

9:10 p.m.

Conservative

Bev Shipley Conservative Lambton—Kent—Middlesex, ON

It always comes back down to the farmer.

9:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Thanks again to witnesses for their indulgence in staying the extra time. We appreciate it.

[Proceedings continue in camera]