I think it's relatively important too. It may not be the key, and that's what concerns me. If you've already heard from people that there's not enough time to do it, when could people possibly get training if there's no time to do their work? And looking at it from the other point of view, if they don't have time to do these CVS activities, when are they going to go to train? If they go to train, they're doing less of the activity. So it's a catch-22, I think, from that point of view. I don't think it's absolutely necessary. I think that good supervisory skills would probably give you the same thing.
I can actually give you an example of that. In the meat inspection world at one time, the meat inspection people started doing the grading. They used to be separate, and they combined the two sections. I happened to be a supervisor at that time. Now, it depended on the approach you used, as the supervisor, how you used the expertise of that person who was a grader, because I didn't have the expertise to grade. However, following good supervisory practices, if there was an issue, you were able to ask that person, “Why did you make this decision? What's your explanation?” And if you had to go to somebody else to find out why they made that decision and whether it was a good decision, there were grading program people who could give you that answer.
So it wasn't totally necessary, but you certainly had to use good supervisory skills to get there. And if you were always busy or overworked, it was very difficult to do those things.