In fact, Mr. Kingston said before that there was. We know there was. Mr. Ritz can hold all the press conferences he likes. We don't believe him.
On the second point, is there pressure...and this is something that as government and as Parliament we have to decide. It's always the debate on whether inspectors should be from third party independents, like the Government of Canada and CFIA, or whether they should be managed and controlled by the plant. As inspectors with CFIA, do you ever feel much pressure from management? Of course it would depend on whether it's a modern plant where you can pull stuff off or whether it's like others, where you have to shut a line down, but do you feel undue pressure sometimes from management in terms of their profit and productivity versus your requirement for food safety?