I can't because of the privacy of the individuals. I had some discussions with the Privacy Commissioner on what was appropriate.
My point is that I believe we have dealt with the two individuals. They had those positions revoked. I've had discussions with the deputy ministers involved. So I believe we have dealt with those cases and there's nothing to be gained by naming the individuals.
But the cases are very important for me in terms of the general point. As I said, in the past eleven years we've had a hundred people flowing back and forth like this. We've already had some in this government--and it's something we've seen in the way ministers' offices are staffed.
So I felt it was not in the public interest for me to have further discussions with the Privacy Commissioner to reveal the names. I think the point is being made that we have a bit of a gap in the system in terms of where we monitor.