That's right, or it's how we pose the questions or do the screening. If those things are occurring, we have to remove them.
With respect to targets, the government had a target of bringing in one in five visible minorities. This was a catch-up target. We've seen an increase, but there has not been this “one in five”, both in entry into the public service and entry into the executive group.
In terms of plans and targets, the regime has changed. In the old regime, I could require deputy ministers to give me a plan, and I challenged all executive appointments and I requested plans. Under the new legislation, this has to be part of the HR plan that is put in place by the department.
We're in transition. When I start seeing those plans, I will be asking about it.