I'll tell you what. I think what families can't do is increase spending by an average of 8%. If they get a pay raise of 3% or 4% and they increase spending by 8%, what happens is that the house gets foreclosed, because families can't print money.
I am proud of the fact that we paid down $13.2 billion, and I'm very happy to defend that anywhere, any time, any place to Canadians directly. If you want to fight against that argument, God bless.