Thank you, lady and gentlemen, for coming here today.
I want to come back to a point you raised and on which my colleague asked several questions. I'm referring to transfers. You said earlier that they would be done without having the least impact on employment. In September, the government announced cutbacks by telling us that it was going to trim the fat, cut wasteful programs, ensure value for money and efficiency savings, among other things. People came to testify about this including ministers and senior officials.
Were you concerned with efficiency savings? It seems quite strange to taxpayers and those who represent them here that these transfers are occurring without there being the slightest efficiency savings. There are no gains in efficiency for small agencies with two, three or four employees. As for large organizations such as Heritage Canada or Human Resources and Skills Development Canada, it seems likely that they could absorb that. I'm not talking here about the impact. Someone may say that we need to save jobs in the public service. I am merely talking about efficiency savings and ensuring good value for money, from a taxpayer's perspective.
How would you explain this?