You know how these things are done: you start at the top and you make this a priority for everyone in the organization. The clerk has done that, and he's actually asked the number two person in PCO, Margaret Bloodworth, to lead a group of deputy ministers who are looking at recruitment, development—the very thing you're talking about—and leadership also. It is their duty to put together the kinds of programs that will filter through the organization in order to bring back that kind of talent upstream.
It's a challenge. About a month ago you may have seen the article in The Economist. It's a challenge throughout the world.
We are addressing this issue squarely by having the right people asking the right questions at the right time. From this will come, I would say, a number of programs to facilitate things, one of which is already in place. You may have seen this. It's called the Government of Canada fellows program, through which we're going to be able to exchange talent between the private sector and the federal government. People will come into our organization at fairly senior levels to understand how government operates, and we will see the great, bright ideas they have to offer us and will send some of our people to the private sector, where they will learn some of those skills and tricks, and bring them back. But this is only the start of something bigger to come.