Right, and that program, of course, had administration costs in the range of 50% plus.
From the time the previous government signed Kyoto to the time it left office, greenhouse gases increased by 35% above Kyoto targets, and at twice the rate of those in the United States during the exact same time period. The environment commissioner found that the programs introduced by the Liberal environment minister at the time, Mr. Dion, did not set clear objectives or point to clear results and, according to the environment commissioner, the Kyoto objectives were not going to be met.
So I'm looking for your advice, because all of us are trying to tackle the questions of climate change, smog reduction, and other environmental objectives. How do we design programs that will produce clear results or that set, first of all, clear and attainable objectives, and then how do we ensure they actually produce the results they are intended to produce?