Let me clarify. The Auditor General has right to access under the Auditor General Act. We are not limited by Access to Information, which is even more restrictive. The Auditor General Act says we have access to all the information we require to do our audits. In 1985, there was an agreement between the Office of the Auditor General and government on access to cabinet documents, spelling out which documents we were to receive, because obviously most cabinet documents are confidential.
That order in council served us well until this recent audit, where, in the case of the IT projects, we wanted to look at the analysis the Treasury Board Secretariat had done. They play a role in this management framework and they challenge these projects, and we wanted to see these documents. Those documents were denied to us by public servants on the basis that they were cabinet confidences of a nature we could not receive. It was their interpretation of the 1985 order in council. We disagree with them. We believe we should have received them, but we obviously cannot see the documents, so it's hard to argue that we should get them because they're being denied to us.