Thank you, Ms. Kenny. Thank you also to your colleagues who have come to see us to talk to us about greening.
I'll continue along the same lines as my colleague. I can understand what Public Works is trying to do with your directorate, but whether you like it or not, this needs to become part of the culture. People need to be motivated. It needs to be a top priority, they need to share these values.
Let's talk about the impact on our departments, for example, as far as procurement is concerned. I like the example of these 308 members. On Parliament Hill, in addition to the senators and the highly effective public servants, officials, and employees of the House of Commons, there is an army of people who use equipment. Members, both here and in their ridings, have belongings and buy things. In our riding, we pay for them; here, they're provided for us, but that's another story.
How do you ensure that we share these values with you, and how will you make sure, if indeed we don't share them, that we are accountable?
Accountability is extremely important, in my opinion. We have a program and we'll have measures to implement it, but after that, how are we going to ensure that people comply? I don't really like the idea of the carrot and the stick, but at the end of the day, if people don't comply, it will be disclosed, people will be aware and it will be one of the reasons why the program will not be the success we expected it to be.
It has been my pleasure to be here for almost three years and in all this time I have never received anything telling me I need to think about the environment. I do think about the environment but I've never been asked to help in making the environment here on Parliament Hill as green as possible. I have a number of tools at my disposal, such as the blue recycling bins, and so on, but they have been around for a long time.
How do you measure this? In other words, after providing the tools that are needed how do you determine there has been a change in culture, that people are using these tools, and at the end of the day, how do you hold these people to account?