The reason we brought up some of the statistics from the United States is that they're facing the same problem we are. They're actively recruiting mid-level managers, and they're actively recruiting scientists.
To go back to what Mr. Corbett said before, they spend a lot more money on doing science. You may even have seen, when you're watching TV, that they have ads now on television trying to recruit patent examiners. They're actually doing that. Those ads are now playing in Canada, so we're losing some of our best and brightest to the United States, because they're spending money.
If you go to page 4 of our brief, you'll see the graph. The first question is whether we have a looming problem. The answer is yes, we do. If you look at the graph, you'll see that in the public sector--and this was back in 2004--those 45 and older represent 52% of the core public administration compared to the labour force, which is much, much younger. Compared to the labour force as a whole, the federal public sector has a much greater problem. As Gary mentioned in his presentation, the private sector is already doing things to retain its older workers, to attract younger workers, and to have that knowledge gap filled, and it is bringing in mentoring.
We don't see that in the federal public sector. The problem is greater here, and we see less of a strategy and fewer mechanisms toward dealing with that issue.