Is there a reason why it needs to be done in the ministry silos? It seems to me that if you knew that the vast majority of your casual or temp positions were administrative in nature, you may well, if you didn't deal with ministry silos, be able to offer a number of permanent positions where the workplace might just change. So the workplace would be temporary or casual, but the employment would be permanent, which would mean that the employee would have all the benefits of tons of experience, frankly, in a number of different workplaces.