It's the discretion of the chair.
I want to welcome our witnesses this afternoon.
An issue that I found interesting in Madame Barrados' presentation was the equity targets for the federal public service.
I come from a riding in downtown Toronto where there are large numbers of new Canadians and many people of colour. As I understand it from Madame Barrados, we are consistently failing to reach—and you reinforced it again here today—the employment equity targets for people of colour. When I asked her why, she was unsure. She said that there are lots of applicants, but very few people get through the system to be hired. As you indicated in the numbers, there was some marginal increase, but it was still far below where the numbers should be.
Why do you think this is a target that the federal public sector is failing to meet on a continual basis?