To the first part of your question, in the process as I understand it—I wasn't here then, but I've looked at the materials—it appears that the government chose an objective and then went out and hired experts to come into Public Works and to look at processes and areas for improvement.
With respect, I don't consider myself a great expert in this, but I believe that's sort of upside down. I would have hired the experts first to tell me exactly how I can improve my processes and where the savings are; then I would have figured out the savings over a five-year period. But we can disagree on this.