No, no. Hold on.
It includes.... It doesn't matter, it's the behaviour here as an owner that I'm addressing. We have been terrible as building owners for decades. We were such bad owners that your own party—well, you weren't with them then, but the guys at the end of the table were--was thinking of actually disposing of the entire portfolio.
What we're proposing makes a lot of sense. We're saying that we're not in the business of owning buildings. Everybody is getting out of it; the banks are, and the governments in Europe and in Australia are getting out of it. What do we know that they don't know? The easy answer is nothing. We have neglected them, we haven't capitalized them properly, and we do not have the expertise to run such a large portfolio.
Now, we can disagree on this, but for you to suggest that there are no motives, or no business reasons, Mr. Turner--