First, on the capital gains, obviously this is pure fiction, as you know. If you don't look after your assets and you allow your assets to deteriorate, obviously this so-called gain disappears, and the government is not in the business of making a profit on the buildings. We have accumulated this over the years with I'm sure with the best of intentions, but we've neglected them. We don't have the proper resources and we can't attract the proper resources to run this and we are facing significant bills to repair the buildings. To suggest these are crown jewels.... Somebody has absolutely no idea of the type of portfolio we have, to suggest these are crown jewels.
The government has demonstrated over and over during the past several decades that it really isn't interested in running real estate, and the simple reason is that there are people out there who specialize in this. Again, the banks, whose lives really are to make profit--if there was money to be made in this, they'd be in it--have spun this off to a single-purpose entity to run real estate. Governments have done it, and I suggest to you that we are not smarter than those people, and we should get out of the real estate business. But first I will do this transaction and see if it goes ahead and try to get the best transaction, the best value, the best proceeds possible for taxpayers, because at the end of the day, this is what this is about. It's not to continue running billions and billions of dollars of structural bills and unpaid and unaddressed liabilities to pretend we have this great portfolio we're so proud of.
You need to address the portfolio like somebody who has good common sense and good business sense. We haven't done this over the past 30 years.