I'll ask you one last question on this.
There was an issue about the valuing of these properties. The banks make their commission. We don't know the specifics of it, but their commission is based on the sale of the properties. As I understand it, the values placed on these properties are surprisingly high. Some of the figures have been reported through the media. For the Canada Place in Edmonton, the government is being advised by the banks that they can get $265 million, even though the building was appraised at $145 million just last year; $250 million for the Harry Hays Building in Calgary, which was valued at $87 million; $200 million for the Skyline complex in Ottawa, which Ottawa bought for $91 million in 2003. The question—